Posts Tagged ‘Bob Dylan’

VERKAUFE BOB DYLANS AUTOBIOGRAFIE – 谷驹休 Gu Juxiu

5月 21, 2022

Gu Juxiu
VERKAUFE BOB DYLANS AUTOBIOGRAFIE

Das Cover ist abgenutzt,
die Seiten vergilbt.
Ich habs vor zehn Jahren in die Hand bekommen,
aber nie richtig ernsthaft
auch nur einen Abschnitt gelesen,
obwohls meine Jugend repräsentiert.

He, du Nobelpreisträger,
mit Zigarette und Gitarre,
lieber Herr Dylan,
bitte hören Sie zu:

Ich verkaufe Sie, aber das heißt nicht,
dass meine Welt zusammenbricht.
Ich hör noch Rock’n’roll,
alle möglichen Arten,
obwohl nicht mehr live in der Bar oder auf einem Festival.
Aber ich glaub –
ich hab Ihr Buch schon verstanden.

Unzähligen Trivialitäten und Problemen ins Auge schauen,
das ist ja auch Rock’n’roll.
Außerdem bin ich 8x oder mehr
umgezogen, in Shanghai allein.
Also schon länger ein rolling stone.

Übersetzt von MW im Mai 2022

新世纪诗典作品联展#谷驹休#(9.0)

 

感谢伊沙老师推荐上典,从诗自评几句题外话:

​1、诗题借鉴了万青乐队《杀死那个石家庄人》曲名,而“崩塌”一词在诗中也有新的表达,我想,相比十年前,精神世界有过修正和重塑的同龄人,肯定不止我一个。

2、诗中特地提一嘴“诺贝尔文学奖”,可看作我揶揄西方话语霸权的一个小动作,其实,英美全方位全学科的洗脑能力,坑遍的国家不在少数,它比大多数中国人所意识到的更强大,择善学取之,择不善弃之。

3、摇滚乐普遍有很强现实隐喻,不同乐队不同歌曲怎么解读,可左可右,见仁见智,不变的可贵的是抗争意识和呐喊态度。但是,如果思考过度依赖摇滚歌词上,难免会跑偏。

4、诞生于英美的摇滚乐,曾是解体苏联的外部因素之一,好在这招放今日中国已不灵了,甚至年轻摇滚歌手刘森《温情》里写了一句“灯塔不愿倒”,什么意思你懂。

5、有人说,年轻人越来越“左”,张口“资本”闭口“剥削”,其实这种“左”未经历练并不牢靠,跟十年前,网络上众口一词“民主与自由”的现象相似,大部分属于一种牢骚。

6、与此同时,奥威尔、阿伦特、哈耶克……等名字,开始以短视频形式,下沉到一些城市中老年的朋友圈,与年轻人的b站弹幕互为奇观了。但我信一个老师说的话:任何人任何事任何国家,都没有回头路可走。某种担忧,未必成真,至少会走形。

7、接受 “左”的情绪流量还是“右”的情绪流量,很多时候是屁股决定脑袋,无可厚非,只是一些大热话题,背后姓“资”还是“社”,为改革还是为捣乱,有些屡出谣言,不可不慎。

8、回到此诗,我是想说:不可尽信各路意见领袖,要动用你自己的经验、立场、本心……西方有些社科理论,也许不适合巍巍中华,“自由主义泛滥”或“百家争鸣”的时候,在这片土地上都不是啥好年代。

伊沙推荐:曾经一度,摇滚乐是现代文明教育的部分,在中国,没有当过摇滚青年是悲哀的,当一辈子摇滚青年也是悲哀的,本诗就是这个意思。

况禹点评《新诗典》谷驹休《卖掉那本鲍勃·迪伦自传》:书有千万种,摇滚乐不一定是独属于青春期的,但与摇滚乐有关的书——无论翻译还是原创,却大多数只适合青春期阅读。我曾经想过这个问题,大约跟作者的文笔和涉世都有些关系。而且作者一旦成长,自然也就会对读物有更高的要求。不过本诗还可以扩大一下理解范围——好多青春时节吸引/影响过我们的书,伴随着光阴流逝变得不再吸引我们了,这里面起决定作用的,依然是人的成长与成熟。

【亚坤评诗】
卖掉那本鲍勃·迪伦自传
作者|谷驹休
(内容详见新诗典今日推送)

1.本诗标题就是作者“回望自我青春”的一种现实结果。它暗含作者当下的现实心境。事实上,“卖掉这本自传”就意味着不爱或者结束么,肯定不是。它意味着自我对生活、时间、青春、成长、理想、际遇等现实问题的一次“系统总结”。

2.事实上,作者在接下来的诗中已经解释的很清楚了。“卖掉你/绝非出于什么/精神世界的崩塌……但我想/我已读懂了你”(原诗摘录)。很显然,在生活和时间的“磨砺”下,作者已然更加清醒和成熟。虽然,这里面包含着无法示人的“伤痛”。

3.最后一段尤其好。最后一句更是点睛之笔。“一块滚石”既指向了现实生活对作者的“精神打磨”,又应和了本诗的主体内容(诗歌、摇滚、青春、理想)。

4.由本诗我其实想到了我自己。我与作者差不多。大学作为贝斯手也玩过四年摇滚,也写诗,也喜欢鲍勃·迪伦,在上海也曾搬过七次家,也干过好几种工作。只不过,这些我早早就放下了。所幸,它们都还在心底。有些,甚至已经开花结果!
可见,“守”与“放”都是一种“爱的深度体现”。这中间,贵在一个“诚”字。正如这首诗的优点一样——“赤诚”!

(马亚坤.2022.05.21.上海)

 

HOW MANY ROADS

12月 10, 2016

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HOW MANY ROADS
– for Bob Dylan

wer ist der beste deutsche dichter?
der wind der wind das himmlische kind

wer ist der beste englische dichter?
der wind der wind das himmlische kind

wer ist der beste höllische dichter?
der wind der wind das himmlische kind

wer ist der beste gutmenschendichter?
der wind der wind das himmlische kind

wer ist der beste bösmenschendichter?
der wind der wind das himmlische kind

wer ist der beste weibliche dichter?
der wind der wind das himmlische kind

wer ist der beste männliche dichter?
der wind der wind das himmlische kind

wer ist der österreichischste dichter?
der wind der wind das himmlische kind

MW Dezember 2016

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WIRBELT IM WIND
– Danke an Bob Dylan!

wieviele wege geht denn ein mensch
bevor du sagst er ist ein mensch?

eine weiße taube fliegt übers meer
wie oft bevor sie schläft?

wieviele male fliegt denn ein ball
bevor die kanone zerbricht?

die antwort, mein freund
die weht im wind
die antwort wirbelt im wind

wieviele jahre steht denn ein berg
bevor ihn der wind wäscht ins meer?

wieviele jahre stehen menschen auf
bevor du’s erlaubst: sie sind frei!

wieviele male drehst du dich um
und tust so als ob du nichts findst?

die antwort, mein freund
die weht im wind
die antwort wirbelt im wind

wieviele male schaut denn ein mann
bevor er den himmel sehen kann?

wieviele ohren brauchst du denn noch
bevor du hörst: jemand weint!

wieviele tote bis du dann weißt
dass zu viele niemand mehr find’t?

die antwort, mein freund
die weht im wind
die antwort wirbelt im wind

MW Dezember 2016

 

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TRUMPIN’ IN THE PENCE

11月 28, 2016

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TRUMPIN’ IN THE PENCE
(no apology)

How many pence must a trump trump down,
before you trump him a pence?
And how many pence must a white trump trump,
before he sleeps in the pence?
Yes, and how many trumps must the pences’s balls trump,
before they’re forever trumped?

The trumper, my pence, is trumpin’ in the pence,
the trumper is trumpin in the pence.

How many pence can the trumper expense,
before he is trumped to the pence?
And how many trumps can some trumpers expense,
before they’re allowed to be pence?
Yes, and how many trumps can a pence turn his trump,
pretending he just doesn’t wince?

The trumper, my pence, is trumpin’ in the pence,
the trumper is trumpin’ in the pence.

How many trumps must a pence trump up,
before he can trump the trump?
Yes, and how many trumps must one pence trump,
before he can hear trumpers trump?
And how many trumps will it take till he trumps
that too many trumpers have trumped?

The trumper, my pence, is trumpin’ in the pence,
the trumper is trumpin’ in the pence.

MW November 2016

PENCIN‘ IN THE PENCE

11月 27, 2016

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PENCIN’ IN THE PENCE
(another apology to B.D.!)

How many pence must a pence pence down,
before you pence him a pence?
And how many pence must a white pence pence, before he pens
in the pence?
Yes, and how many pence must the pence’s balls pence,
before they’re forever penced?

The pences, my pence are pencin’ in the pence, the pences are pencin’ in the pence.

How many pence can the pences expense,
before they are penced to the pence?
And how many pence can some pence expense,
before they’re allowed to be pence? Yes, and how many pence can a pence turn his pence,
pretending he just doesn’t pence?

The pences, my pence are pencin’ in the pence, the pences are pencin’ in the pence.

How many pence must a pence pence up before he can pence the pence?
Yes and how many pence must one pence pence before he can hear pences pence?
And how many pence will he pence till he pens that too many pences have penced?

The pences, my pence are pencin’ in the pence, the pences are pencin’ in the pence.

MW November 2016

TRUMPIN’ IN THE TRUMP

11月 10, 2016
Photo by David Howard

Photo by David Howard

TRUMPIN’ IN THE TRUMP
(apologies to B.D.!)

How many trumps must a trump trump down,
before you trump him a trump?
And how many trumps must a white trump trump before he trumps in the trump?
Yes, and how many trumps must the trumpin’ balls trump before they’re forever trumped?

The trumper, my trump is trumpin’ in the trump, the trumper is trumpin’ in the trump.

How many trumps can a trumper be trumped
before he is trumped to the trump?
And how many trumps can some trumpers be trumped
before they are trumped to be trump? Yes, and how many trumps can a trump turn his trump pretending he just doesn’t trump?

The trumper, my trump, is trumpin’ in the trump, the trumper is trumpin’ in the trump.

How many trumps must a trump trump up before he can trump the trump?
Yes and how many trumps must one trump trump before he can trump trumpers trump!
And how many trumps will it trump till he trumps that too many trumpers have trumped?

The trumper, my trump is trumpin’ in the trump, the trumper is trumpin in the trump.

MW November 2016

NOBLE POEM

10月 23, 2016
Photo by Ronnie Niedermeyer, www.rn.co.at

Photo by Ronnie Niedermeyer, http://www.rn.co.at

NOBLE POEM

wish I could write a noble poem
a prized noble poem
a swedish prized noble poem
a norwegian prized noble poem
pricey and noble
like norwegian beer
everything becomes pricey and noble
unless global warming
comes fast enough

MW October 2016

 

last week the brazilian author ricardo domeneck wrote a noble commentary on Facebook that actually sounds a little dylanesque, partly. masters of war, yes. dynamite. 伊沙 has a great little nobel dynamite poem. from 1992. 今年的文学諾貝爾得主有一首 Masters of War,我有一首 “X&Y”, 伊沙翻譯成《一搭一挡》。講尼克松和他的外交部长、大陸前领導和他的首相等等。墙上還有“毛”字,因為伊沙1991年一首小詩。 we had a reading here in vienna on Oct. 15 in our new housing close to the new central train station. we have a library downstairs. run by people from our house, we are there often. open to other houses, gudrun and peter built a stage, and we have theatre. and we had a bob dylan night a few months ago. masters of war is a little like my poem X&Y. x was cruel/ butt is sore/ y was able/ and suave./ both loved culture/ both destroyed/ hundred million/ butts are cold. written march 2007 in beijing. yes, nixon and kissinger, mao and zhou, maybe there is a pair like that in brazil? only six or seven swedes in over 100 years of a great swedish prize for literature is actually not very much, is it? wonder if ricardo brazil/domeneck/africa ever read tomas tranströmer. oh well. pity this busy monster manunkind/ not. progress is a comfortable disease:/ your victim (death and live safely beyond) plays with the bigness of its littleness …[…] pity poor flesh and trees, poor stars and stones, but never this fine specimen …. listen: there’s a hell/ of a good universe next door. let’s go. there must be some way out of here, said the joker to the thief …

yes, the music of jimi hendrix. dylan is honored as tip of the iceberg, should be chuck berry and many others at the same time. preferably african brazilian women. yes, manunkind maybe doesn’t always deserve something poor ricardo doesn’t always get, maybe. pity. oh yes.

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悼大衛鮑伊 – FOR DAVID BOWIE

1月 15, 2016

悼大衛鮑伊

惦記他
故他在
记得9/11以後
他在紐约唱保羅西蒙的歌
America
惦記盧·里德
兩三年前聽他的現場
惦記臺灣老朋友
廖瑞銘臺灣語教授
记得88年在臺灣買崔健的卡带
惦記傳聲頭像
AC-DC 酒吧
平克·弗洛伊德
寫在BUFFALO TOWN 天花板
惦記臺灣摇滚
以及所有抵抗强暴的聲音

2016.1.11

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星期六七月26号去了鲍勃.迪伦现场 – Bob Dylan concert 在 Wiesen, 奥地利 Austria.
Rather good. Full raspy voice. Lots of ambivalence in the songs. Experimenting with old songs, making it new.
Songs from the albums TIME OUT OF MIND, WORLD GONE WRONG, BLOOD ON THE TRACKS and others. “Love Sick” was the last song. Very, very good. Before that, a new version of Blowin’ in the Wind.
Dylan was rather like Cui Jian 崔健 when he’s good – new songs every time, all of it – especially the classics.
Dylan mostly played piano. Good band. Each song a surprise. We saw Lou Reed two years ago. Also very good. Experimental, still.
That was the last chance I would get to experience Lou Reed live. He was himself, as far as I could tell. They also had what was left of The Doors – still with Ray Manzarek – and Ian Anderson and others. Doors trying to sound like on the records. Oh well. Ian Anderson coherent for one song only. Sad. Lou Reed strong. Like Dylan this time.

THE SUN NEEDS A WHILE – DIE SONNE BRAUCHT EIN BISSCHEN ZEIT

12月 17, 2015

THE SUN NEEDS A LITTLE TIME

the sun needs a little time
I have always loved you
I shouted and cursed
fog and frost
everything hidden in fog in the morning
kids are in school
my bicycle’s gone
my mother’s bicycle, blue, rather old
my father’s bike disappeared also
when I was small you brought me on your bike
I haven’t written much about you
my father my mother
I am a writer
I wrote many poems
most of the time
we could not stand each other
I and my father most of the time
I rode a bicycle
austria taiwan china the cities
sometimes the mountains
along the danube when I was small
with my father
it was very good
in romania I drove a car
it was a vw looked rather broken
like an old bicycle ran rather well
the sun needs a while
I should be translating
should be writing letters
call one or two people
take care go on working
chongqing has fog every day
no-one rides a bicycle
there are lots of stairs
nowadays there are highways
nato bombed serbia
it was on tv
the land and the roofs
I come from austria
I loved yugoslavia as a small child
I watched and I cried
then I rode my bicycle
up and down chongqing
nato bombed the chinese embassy
no-one knew why
you can try to explain
maybe if they had bombed them in bosnia
the yugoslav army not the chinese
no srebrenica no war in kosovo
I only knew this is where I come from
and now there is war
you can try to explain
come you masters of war
I hope I can write a little more
the sun needs a while

MW December 2015

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DIE SONNE BRAUCHT EIN BISSCHEN ZEIT

die sonne braucht ein bisschen zeit
ich hab dich immer geliebt
ich hab dich beschimpft und angeschrien
raureif und nebel
in der früh liegt alles im nebel
die kinder sind in der schule
mein fahrrad ist weg
das blaue fahrrad von meiner mutter
auch das fahrrad von meinem vater
auf dem blauen fahrrad bin ich als kind
warum hab ich nicht von euch geschrieben
von meinem vater von meiner mutter
ich kann doch schreiben
ich hab so viele gedichte geschrieben
ich hab mich nicht vertragen
mit meinem vater
fast immer haben wir uns nicht vertragen
ich bin viel rad gefahren
in österreich in taiwan in china
in rumänien mit einem wagen
der wagen sah aus wie ein altes fahrrad
es war ein vw sie ist gut gefahren
autos sind weiblich in vielen sprachen
die sonne braucht ein bisschen zeit
ich sollt übersetzen
sollt korrespondieren
sollt leute anrufen
sollt mich kümmern
in chongqing ist immer viel nebel
fast niemand hat in chongqing ein fahrrad
es gibt viele stufen
jetzt gibt es auch viele stadtautobahnen
die nato hat serbien bombardiert
ich hab es im fernsehen gesehen
das land und die dächer
ich komme aus österreich
und war als kind in jugoslawien
ich hab geweint
dann bin ich mit dem fahrrad
in den straßen gefahren
hinauf und hinunter
die nato hat die chinesische botschaft
niemand wusste warum
ausländer waren auf einmal verdächtig
man kann versuchen den krieg zu erklären
vielleicht hätten bomben zur rechten zeit
srebrenica verhindert
und damit auch den kosovokrieg
man kann versuchen den krieg zu erklären
es gibt viele erklärungen über die jahre
ich wusste nur ich komm von dort
dort ist jetzt krieg
come you masters of war
ich hoffe ich kann noch etwas schreiben
die sonne braucht ein bisschen zeit

MW Dezember 2015

太阳需要一点时间

太阳需要一点时间
我一直爱你
我呐喊诅咒
雾与霜
早起一切隐藏在雾里
孩子们在学校里
我的自行车不见了
我妈妈的自行车,蓝色的,相当旧
我爸爸的自行车也不见了
我小的时候,你们把我抱上你们的自行车
对于你们我写得不多
我爸爸我妈妈
我是一名作家
我写了很多诗
大部分时间
我们不能待在一起
大部分时间我和爸爸无法相处
我骑自行车
骑过奥地利、台湾、中国的城市
偶尔还有山峦
小时候我沿着多瑙河
和我爸爸一起骑行
那很好
在罗马尼亚我开了一辆轿车
那是辆大众车,看起来很破
像一辆旧自行车跑得相当好
太阳需要一段时间
我应该去翻译
应该去写信
给一两个人打电话
坚持继续工作
重庆每天都有雾
没有人骑自行车
有很多台阶
现在有了高速公路
在电视上
北约轰炸塞尔维亚
土地和屋顶
我来自奥地利
我打小就爱南斯拉夫
我看着哭了
然后我骑自行车
在重庆上上下下
北约炸了中国大使馆
没有人知道为什么
你可以试着解释
也许如果他们在波斯尼亚轰炸
南斯拉夫军队不是中国人
就没有斯雷布雷尼察没有科索沃战争
我只知道我是从哪里来的
现在有战争
你可以试着解释
来吧你这个战争大师
我希望我能多写一点
太阳需要一段时间

(2015)
【奥地利】维马丁著
伊沙、老G译

 

 

 

 

IDLE

12月 7, 2015

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IDLE

something idle in poetry
something obscene

how much do I know
to talk out of turn
you might say I’m young
you might say I’m unlearned

something in poetry that doesn’t die

MW December 2015

Bob

X & Y

x was cruel
butt is sore
y was able
and suave
both loved culture
both destroyed
hundred million
butts are cold

MW March 2007

【奥地利】维马丁

伊沙译

《一搭一挡》

X贪残暴虐
死而后已
Y才华横溢
风度翩翩
博古通今
焚书坑儒
亿万人民
生灵涂炭

2007.3

Tanks Uighur Girl

 

Murong Xuecun, Yu Hua, Liu Zhenyun, Bob Dylan and Rivers of Bablyon

8月 5, 2012

I don’t think Murong Xuecun exaggerates, like one commentator suggested on the MCLC list. Yes, you could encompass many alarming, saddening, embarrassing stories in one speech in other places than China, and people do it all the time, naming names, practices, products. The difference is that in China you will be silenced more swiftly and harshly. Yes, there are exceptions.

Does Mo Yan revel in cruelty like Dan Brown? Does Yu Hua make better use of the cruel parts in his novels? Ok, I’m an interested party, I can’t really say. Would be interesting to analyze in detail. Mo Yan’s novels are great works, at least those I have read, he has written a lot. Deep, cathartic, even accusing use of cruel events and structures. I love Yu Hua’s tone. And I associate Liu Zhenyun in Remember 1942, and Murong Xuecun’s Sky and Autumn speech.

We had Jeremiah in church today, along with that story where a guy goes abroad and gives his gold and silver to his servants. The ones that receive more trade with it, and when their lord comes back, they can give him double. The one who received very little buries it, and when the lord comes back, he digs it out and says, I know you are a harsh governor and reap where you haven’t sown, so I was afraid to lose what you gave me, and kept it double safe. His colleagues get to join the big party, and are rewarded with great posts. He is cast out into the darkness, which is filled with howling and chattering teeth. It’s a horrible story. Yes, it’s a parable, and if you have very little reason for faith, you should still risk it and try to make more, because if you bury it deep in your heart you might lose the little trust you had and received and be cast out into the darkness. But if you are the one who has reason to be afraid, how can you trust your lords? The ones who have more and get more have it easy. Even if they lose everything, they are often rewarded – those powerful managers and functionaries. And if there are enough of those who are cast out, and they get organized, maybe some bishops or other lords might dangle from lamp posts. A Hussite reading, said my wife. Yeah, maybe. No shortage of horrible stories in Chinese literature, like in the Bible.

Jeremiah is even worse, it’s a much bigger story, infinitely more horrible. And there is a detail, not in the Jeremiah parts used in church today, but in the songs in exile. By the rivers of Babylon, where we sat down, where we wept when we remembered Zion. And in the end the singer wishes, or the singers wish they will one day brutally kill the children of the oppressors. That’s the detail in Murong Xuecun’s speech I was thinking about.

The calling of Jeremiah, where he says he’s too young, and God says he has to go and obey, and open his mouth, and God will put His words into his mouth, and he will be set above nations and kingdoms, so he can pluck out and demolish, ruin and destroy, as well as plant and build. The preacher said she thought of parting and setting off to other posts, and how the Marschallin in Hugo von Hofmannsthal’s and Richard Strauss’ Rosenkavalier sings of what she will have to give up. What a horrible comparison! There is nothing light in Jeremiah. There are no waltzes. Ok, Rivers of Babylon, yes. But with Jeremiah, if you have to mention Austrian writers, Franz Werfel would be much more apt. Werfel was Jewish and used Jeremiah, a lot. Ok, she did mention, much too briefly how nobody would heed Jeremiah, and that it’s actually the most terrible story.

Anyway, when I heard Jeremiah, I thought of Bob Dylan. Masters of War. “How much do I know, to talk out of turn? You might say that I’m young; you might say I’m unlearned. But there is one thing I know, though I’m younger than you, it’s that Jesus would never forgive what you do. […] And I’ll watch while you’re lowered onto your deathbed, and I’ll stand on your grave and make sure that you’re dead.” I don’t know if Dylan thought of Nixon and Kissinger explicitly, when he wrote this song. America’s Vietnam War was raging, and I think the song came out when Nixon and Kissinger where in power. Anyway, there is that Monty Python song about Kissinger. Very explicit. Dylan and Monty Python would not be able to sing these songs in China on stage today, to say nothing about what Chinese artists can do. No, Murong Xuecun doesn’t exaggerate.

x and y

x was cruel

butt is sore

y was able

and suave.

both loved culture

both destroyed

hundred million

butts are cold

MW         March 2007

Yes, I thought of Mao and Nixon, and their sidekicks. But x and y could stand for many people, and could be mentioned anywhere, at least today. Almost anywhere, probably. Anyway, it’s about smoking, you know. Littering. OK, enough for today.


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